WHO THE HELL IS… MIKE FOXALL? NEPTUNE POWER FEDERATION, SICK FIZZ, NANCY VANDAL & MORE
WHO THE HELL IS… MIKE FOXALL? NEPTUNE POWER FEDERATION, SICK FIZZ, NANCY VANDAL & MORE
By Shane Pinnegar
In April I flew to Melbourne primarily for the Pandemonium Rocks Festival – but I had an extra night and as chance would have it, a band was playing which I’d followed for a dozen years, since their inception, but never had the chance to catch live.
As I walked the Collingwood streets to The Tote to interview the founder of this band (and another on that night’s bill, Sick Fizz) I thought about their history.
Formed in 2012 by Mike Foxall and friends, The Neptune Power Federation were as snappy, clever and funny a heavy metal band as there ever was. Foxall – an artist and veteran of such Aussie cult heroes as Nancy Vandal and Musk – rechristened himself Inverted Crucifox for NPF purposes, and the then-primarily studio-only project quickly released their debut album, Mano Satano.
Nancy Vandal alumni bassist Jay Whalley (better known as Frenzal Rhomb’s singer, here labelled Jaytanic Ritual) and drummer Dean Bakota (rechristened River Sticks) were augmented by guitarist Search & DesTroy – Troy Scerri to his Mum, of Mortal Sin, Daredevil and Buffalo Revisited fame, and after that first album enjoyed a modicum of success – not least for Foxall’s animated music video for Boil The Oil, featuring a bevy of metal legends including Udo Dirkschneider, Rob Halford, Lemmy Kilmister, Wendy O Williams & more defending a castle – a new vocalist was enlisted, and Neptune Power Federation really came into their own.
The self-styled Imperial Priestess, Screaming Loz Sutch, has remained at the helm through five more studio albums and a compilation of obscure singles and one-of releases, all chock full of what I like to call gonzo psych freakouts that go over the top then over another top immediately afterwards, then start eyeing up another top to go over it because nothing exceeds quite as well as excess.
As I wrote in my review of the night’s gig – their tongue is in their cheek, but they are all rock and roll. They like a joke, but they’re no joke.
All things considered, I was looking forward to doing a deep dive into Mike Foxall’s storied career – both as musician and artist – and if anything, I had TOO MUCH to ask him. But hey, nothing exceeds like excess, so with no time to waste, in we dove to find Foxall and wife Nicole amiable hosts.
100% ROCK: Thank you for your time today, Sir. It’s been a long time. I think we did an email interview, must be going back 7-8-9 years. Something like that – what year was the first album?
MIKE FOXALL: You’re welcome, Sir. Yeah, very, very early. Yeah, almost the start of the band, I reckon, maybe 2012.
100% ROCK: Was it really that long ago? That’s when you formed the band?
FOXALL: Yeah, it was a long time. It was basically a studio project. And so I’m not even sure how well known that album was at the time outside of our sort of tiny circle. But you were one of the first people to contact me.
100% ROCK: You’ve really built a grassroots following from day one. You can see watching your Facebook posts – the crowds just get a little bit bigger and the print runs of the vinyl get a little bit larger and sell out a little bit quicker with each successive album.
FOXALL: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, we don’t sound as desperate when trying to sell them!
100% ROCK: That’s a bonus, isn’t it? So, what I want to go into if you can bear with, is basically – who the hell is Mike Foxall?
FOXALL: Ohh geez.
100% ROCK: When I was researching this week I did find a really excellent interview with you from THE AITHER – CLICK HERE
FOXALL: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was exhaustive. Yeah.
100% ROCK: That’s the one. That filled in a lot of blanks for your back story – I’d advise readers to go check that out as well [click the above link], so I will try not to duplicate too much here today… So – right back to the start. Before the mountains, before the seas, Mike Foxall as a child… what came first, art or music?
FOXALL: Art. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was quite late to the music thing, actually. I loved music – listening to it, but I didn’t play it till I was 18, yeah, really late. I was an accomplished air guitarist as a child, and then eventually transitioned to non-air instruments. But I always liked music, and I liked music that had, like, an arty kind of aspect, like KISS and visual sort of bands were always the ones that really I was dragged to. Like lots of 70’s glam, that sort of stuff. Yeah.
100% ROCK: Back in high school and your teenage years, was your art featuring a rock’n’roll theme?
FOXALL: Yeah, yeah, lots of copying logos and drawing. Yeah, I think that’s a pretty typical!
100% ROCK: Yeah, I did a lot of that myself. All my school books and so on had Saxon and Iron Maiden and Motörhead logos all over them.
FOXALL: Yeah – and Nicole [Mrs Foxall, who’s sitting in on our interview] kind of could confirm this. I’ve got this little sketchbook from when I was a kid, and they were kind of equal between band stuff, war stuff, like soldiers killing each other and footy. I was into Aussie rules – still am. So, drawings of football marks and things. A bit of Star Wars. A bit of cult film stuff in there as well.
100% ROCK: A nice mix!
FOXALL: A bit psycho [laughs] – I dunno what my parents thought!
100% ROCK: What inspired you artistically? What artists were you looking up to? Or was it simply you liked the visuals in bands and played around with that?
FOXALL: I was kind of… I wasn’t exposed to a lot of art, really. So, I was into comics. I like comics, so I had my favourite comic artists, and that’s who I was trying to kind of copy and emulate. But I also loved to copy – The Bat Out Of Hell album cover and things like that.
100% ROCK: We are brothers from other mothers. I had things like the Whitesnake Come And Get It album cover, and Jethro Tull’s Broadsword And The Beast cover that I copied freehand in pencil and attached to the front of school folder with clear contact! And I always picked the most difficult ones to do. I mean, why go for something simple, right?
FOXALL: Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK. That sounds, yeah, we were following the same path. I had some stuff that I love that I didn’t know at the time, but I love that fantasy like that guy – what’s his name? Frank…
100% ROCK: Frank Frazetta?
FOXALL: Yeah, that style. I mean, Bat Out Of Hell wasn’t one of his [it was by Richard Corben], but it was in his sort of area. And the guy who did Destroyer by KISS [Ken Kelly]. I loved his stuff, too. And I drew a lot of KISS – all the KISS artworks, but especially the drawn ones and the graphic designing of their covers.
100% ROCK: And Nancy Vandal – that was your first proper band?
FOXALL: Yeah, that’s right.
100% ROCK: When did that come about and more importantly, how did it come about?
FOXALL: Well, that’s when I started playing the guitar – like, shortly after that I formed a band [laughs]. There really wasn’t a lot of gap between starting and actually playing, and I met Jay [Jason Whalley, future Frenzal Rhomb frontman, Neptune Power Federation bass player and producer, and much more], my bandmate, at Uni. He had just started playing guitar too, so we basically were both learning at the same time that we formed the band. We’re dicking around at Uni a little bit, playing covers and stuff. But once I sort of got the bug of the guitar playing, I started writing songs and I wanted to keep doing this. So, Nancy was my first band. It was my first everything! What you hear there is really, literally, me learning to play the guitar and write songs.
100% ROCK: And doing it pretty well. What was it – how many albums did you make with Nancy Vandal?
FOXALL: Quite a few! Six – yeah, six albums. We were very prolific, really, given our background. But we didn’t have anything else to do in those days, so we just pumped ‘em out!
100% ROCK: I know, isn’t it bizarre? I found a mix tape the other week because we’re packing our house ready to move – a mix tape I made thirty years ago. All I could think of was, I wish I had time to do mix tapes nowadays.
FOXALL: Yeah, that’s right. [When we were young] we had all that time and were just trying to think of ways to fill it, basically.
100% ROCK: Jay turns out to be quite important in your career as you go on down the road. We’ll get back to him a little bit later. First though – your sense of humour – it’s absurd and left of centre. Completely counterculture. And that seems intact from the very start in your art and music. Where did that come from, do you think?
FOXALL: I reckon if we’re going back to childhood, I love Monty Python. That’s a big influence. And actually, I also really loved Terry Gilliam’s art and animation, which sort of came into play too later in my life. I think The Young Ones – I love those sort of comedies, like The Goodies, all of those.
100% ROCK: The Goodies and Kenny Everett were always the Channel 2 afternoon/evening double, weren’t they? Fantastic.
FOXALL: Yeah, I love Kenny Everett too. I mean, I love The Goodies, but I LOVE Kenny Everett. I was a massive Kenny Everett fan. All those things have that sort of slightly off-kilter feel. They had loads of fantastical elements, of course. So yeah, I was always drawn to that, for whatever reason. I don’t know why, but my parents weren’t. They’d tell me not to watch it!
100% ROCK: Same – my mum just scratched her head and walked away. You mentioned KISS, and their imagery, Monty Python and their visuals and whatnot. They’re a rock band and they’re a comedy group, and they’re both hugely influential as much stylistically and visually, as they are for their music or comedy, aren’t they? Even people who don’t like KISS’s music perhaps still loved the idea of those visuals.
FOXALL: Yeah, you’re right. And the band members having their sort of character personality, style guide…
100% ROCK: Yes. I wonder what you picked up from that, going down the line…
FOXALL: Ha! Yeah…
100% ROCK: It was with Nancy Vandal that you started doing a lot of the rock’n’roll art, wasn’t it? And almost by accident. That’s where you started to draw and paint flyers and record covers and whatnot. Did you find at that time that your art flourished very fast?
FOXALL: Yeah, yeah, ‘cos I think by necessity there was so much to do and, like, little projects and deadlines and things that kind of got me in that mode of, like, I’ve gotta do this and I’ve gotta make it good! So – I’ve thought about it a lot – that I did different album covers and stuff and then I was sort of playing in Nancy Vandal, and I was doing other people’s flyers and T shirts and things as well. So, it kind of basically drew me into that world, which is where I have stayed ever since.
100% ROCK: So – no Nancy Vandal – maybe no Neptune Power Federation? So Sick Fizz?
FOXALL: Yeah. It’s funny. That pathway, that little happy accident that sent us on that road. Probably…
100% ROCK: Back to Jay. I’ve read that you lived with him at one point?
FOXALL: Yeah, Nicole, I moved in with her and his then girlfriend in about 1996. That was… [to Nicole] I guess that was before he was in Nancy Vandal? Or was it… yeah, he joined while we were flatmates. Yeah, I think our founding bass player Marcus called it a day and Jay was the first person I saw. [laughs] We were really good mates, similar sort of musical tastes. Nancy Vandal by that time had played with Frenzal a few times – well, a bunch of times really – so, he became the bass player for a pretty short period, really. But it was kind of at the peak of that band, before Triple J kind of got hold of us. So, it was almost like the end of that sort of first phase of Nancy Vandal, he was there. He’s also really good, I mean, that album we recorded with him [The Debriefing Room] has his sort of imprint on it – like he sort of showed us how to do harmony vocals and things, things that we hadn’t really known how to do.
100% ROCK: How handy! And then the band folded and you had bigger and better things to do, like start a family, and you started doing more of the fine art stuff, didn’t you?
FOXALL: Yeah, corporate work, but Nicole and I both did a few courses and workshops and things, and we got into fine arts and painting and stuff. Nicole painted before too, but we both thought, ‘ohhh, we should really practise at this thing we’re supposed to be good at.’ So, that was the early days with kids, so I wasn’t really doing a lot of music in that period – wasn’t doing a lot of anything really!
100% ROCK: That’s kids for ya!
FOXALL: Yeah – ruin everything [laughs]
100% ROCK: But through that time you were still working for yourself, weren’t you? Have you ever had a ‘real job’, so to speak?
FOXALL: Fair question! I worked at a record shop, but only for a while.
100% ROCK: I don’t know, that’d be a kind of dream job, except I’d walk out at the end of every week with a pile of records and no money, you know?
FOXALL: Yeah, it was pretty good. I also taught at TAFE for a couple of years. I taught video editing and that sort of stuff. But nothing for very long. I do like my… freedom or whatever you call it.
100% ROCK: Doesn’t play well with others…
[Both laugh]
FOXALL: Yeah, I like being my own person.
100% ROCK: Around about the time I got into Neptune Power Federation, I found a band called Musk.
FOXALL: Ohh, yes!
100% ROCK: I was convinced you were involved with that, but I can’t find any evidence to prove this theory…
FOXALL: No, I am. I was. Yeah, well done. There’s not much [info] on that band.
100% ROCK: I couldn’t even find a silly name with the word ‘Fox’ in it, but Denim Armageddon – what a great album!
FOXALL: Yeah, yeah. That was, ohhh, that kind of was my getting back into music sort of band, right? That was at the end of the ‘dark period’ as Nicole calls it. Yeah, we actually did a couple of Nancy Vandal reunion shows at the end of the aughts with Frenzal Rhomb, and that was the first music I played for, you know, almost 10 years. Ohh, that was good fun – we should do this again. And so yeah, we formed Musk – and actually Dean from Nancy Vandal was also in Musk with us too, and a couple of other friends. It didn’t last very long…
100% ROCK: Yeah. One album, one EP, wasn’t it?
FOXALL: Yeah. But it did sort of spark the Neptune Power Federation almost right after that, almost concurrently, suddenly. That was good question.
100% ROCK: That was a really fun little outfit. It’s got that sense of humour there, of course, and the wigs and moustaches were just hilarious…
FOXALL: Well, at the time, we thought we were so old, we thought we had to [disguise ourselves] – we can’t be thirty year olds playing music! Which is ironic now…
100% ROCK: Yes. So, 2012. Your kids are grown, you’ve just done Musk as a bit of fun… You do the first Neptune Power Federation album, as you said, as kind of a studio project. Was it intended to be a long-term thing? Because, listening back, I mean, I love that album – don’t get me wrong – but it’s almost like a parody of rock and metal, you know?
FOXALL: Yeah, yeah, it probably was a little bit. I mean, I always had that sort of tongue in cheek approach. All the music [I’d made] to that stage, at least, had had that sort of, you know, I was trying to make it slightly more stupid. It was – it was stupid. Like, it was. Yeah, it was. [laughs]
100% ROCK: Oh, come on. That Boil The Oil video is still a bona fide classic, undeniably.
FOXALL: Well, I mean, yeah, that probably did capture the spirit of the band at that stage. It was kind of a bit of a tongue in cheek. But I mean, I love that sort of music, as you know, and I really wanted to do something a bit heavier that I hadn’t really done before. I’d always loved hard rock and heavy metal, but never really recorded any of it. I guess Musk was kind of the gateway to that. It was, ‘OK, can I actually write just straight hard rock with no punk stuff?’ And that was it!
100% ROCK: This was my next question – obviously the punk thing came about ‘cos you just picked a guitar up and it’s easier to play punk than it is anything else. Then you get into the hard rock and the boogie sort of thing. And then you start to get a bit more disciplined and heavy and psych and go down that crazy little heavy metal road…
FOXALL: Yes. Correct, yes.
100% ROCK: Which I often think is kind of like the more psych elements of The Damned put into a bit of a metal format.
FOXALL: Yeah. Yeah. I guess once when we got Troy, like, he wanted to personally be in the band. Like even at that point, recording that album, he was coming in and just playing solos with us. And it wasn’t really a band, then it sort of became a more concrete thing. He’s a really good player, and then when the Priestess eventually swooped in, suddenly it was like, it was less tongue in cheek, but there’s still a little sense of fun in there.
100% ROCK: Ohh, absolutely yeah. Whenever I push people towards the bands I like, especially the less mainstream and more obscure and just insane ones, I always push them towards Neptune Power Federation. “It’s completely over the top gonzo sort of psych metal – you gotta get into this!” And you know, 90% of them listen and go, ‘okayyyyyy’, back away slowly towards the door. But you always pick up a few people on the way. I’ve got a few friends now who order your records as soon as you put the presale up, a few converts to the cause.
FOXALL: Nice. OK. Ohh that’s awesome. Thank you.
100% ROCK: Because you have to, right? So, as much as I love that first album, as I said, when The Imperial Priestess joined, she’s like your secret weapon, right?
FOXALL: Yes, absolutely.
100% ROCK: I’ve heard a whisper that she might be Jay’s wife, Lauren Friedman?
FOXALL: That is correct. We don’t really hide that but we don’t shout it loudly either…
100% ROCK: What has she done before? Her voice is just incredible!
FOXALL: Nothing. I know, I know. I remember we were at a party around that time [of the first album] and I was saying, ‘you should be famous – like, you are this untapped resource!’ And this was not me saying she should be in Neptune Power Federation, I was just, ‘wow.’ She IS the band, really. For most people who hear us now, she is the band – definitely the focal point, I would think.
100% ROCK: So how did the concept of this heavy psych metal occult cult outfit come about? Did you just go, ‘let’s dress it up like we’re a cult. We’re a federation, and now she can be the Priestess of that…’?
FOXALL: Yeah, I think a lot of that stuff came from her – her persona and her presence. She made all that up. When we got her in the band, we didn’t say you have to dress up. We didn’t have that all plotted out. In the very early days, you see photos and she was dressed as a nun. That was her first costume. But then she just put the headdress on… I think there was a lot of shopping on eBay? [laughs] And,it just sort of grew from that. And then once I saw her, what she was doing – oh wow. This is great! So, we tried to weave the narrative of The Imperial Priestess – and even the name The Imperial Priestess – into the band. That was, originally, a lyric in one of the songs, and people just started referring to her as it, almost without our urging or anything. So… ‘Ohh kay… so now we’ll call her that as well!’
100% ROCK: That’s fantastic. And I would imagine that that whole cultish sort of persona of the band would definitely contribute to the success you’re having in Europe at the moment?
FOXALL: Yeah. I mean, there’s actually quite a few, if you look around, of those sort of bands in Europe. There’s a couple of, like, really Pagan looking sort of folk metal, I guess you would call that sort of band. I think that in Europe that is a bit more of a little sub-genre of heavy psych bands. So, I think they kind of get our vibe, even though we’re a little bit different.
100% ROCK: The fact that the band has grown sort of exponentially – you’re still underground, but you literally have built a cult following from out of nowhere – was it all part of a master plan?
FOXALL: It is just happy accidents, man. There’s a magazine over there in Germany called Deaf Forever, and they got a hold of one of the videos we did and that just struck a chord with them, and they kind of got the ball rolling over there. It’s a print magazine, and they have a really dedicated readership and they’re kind of ‘taste makers.’ If you get in that magazine, people will follow you up and it’s kind of hard to imagine that in Australia. It’s like Hot Metal magazine was way back in the day – like that sort of. So, they championed us, and I think that really helped us get that foothold over there.
100% ROCK: To my mind – and not just me – you’re one of the most vital, vibrant Australian rock’n’roll bands in the in the last 10 or 15 years…
FOXALL: Ohh, thank you.
100% ROCK: Well, you must agree surely? I mean, who else out there is doing anything different and unusual and getting success overseas?
FOXALL: I do. I do feel we are pretty unique from an Australian perspective. Like I said, there are bands in Europe that I would say are in now, not a genre, but like kind of [coming from similar] points of reference. Whereas in Australia, metal bands are more metal – traditional metal. Mostly dudes, not so many women. So, I guess we are kind of a bit unique, yeah.
100% ROCK: I think it’s important because rock and roll is in a difficult place. We need to get people to rock and roll shows – I’m sure this place will be pretty packed tonight. I’ve seen the photos of your shows, you’re pulling decent crowds here.
FOXALL: Yeah, Melbourne is usually pretty good for us, so I’m hopeful. Ever since COVID, we’ve always been a bit ‘ohh, are we back or not?’ You know what I mean? But yeah, we’ll see…
100% ROCK: Have you had any problems with anyone taking the imagery a bit too seriously? Either pro the band or anti the band?
FOXALL: Not really. I think everyone gets it, like, it’s quite funny. Like, if you’ve never seen us before you could be confused, theoretically, but even in Germany, a country which is not famous for its sense of humour, they get it. They’re, like, bowing down to the Priestess and getting blessed by her, and they love it. It’s sort of just understood. From the very first days when the Priestess started doing that sort of communion stuff, I mean, I guess it’s like a human understanding – like ‘I get it, this is cool. I know what this is.’
100% ROCK: Right – like metal, like the comedy you mentioned before: if you get it, you really get it. It’ll stay with you forever.
FOXALL: Yeah. Yeah. It’s like a switch [goes on] – it’s like a ‘click’ where if you know you know. I’ve never seen anyone not get – maybe there are people, like, up the back, going ‘what the fuck is this?!?’ [laughs] but no, I think people get it!
[We’re interrupted as Jay arrives, whereupon they joke about being interviewed and Fox tells Jay “I’m being interviewed, dude – fuck off!”]
100% ROCK: And while this is all happening, while Neptune Power Federation is releasing album after album, you’ve got The Art Of Fox going mental. You launched Speek Evil magazine, because you don’t have enough to do in your days…
FOXALL: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
100% ROCK: And you say, let’s start a record label as well… did it all work?
FOXALL: Yeah. It all worked… I think, well enough. With Speek Evil Magazine, I think I really took on a lot…
100% ROCK: It seemed like time was your enemy with that one.
FOXALL: [laughs] Yeah – and eventually time won!
100% ROCK: It slowed down from four issues a year to two, and then it’s been a little bit of an absence for a while now, which is a shame, because it was great, and it was unique.
FOXALL: Yeah, I think it’s not the end of it. I was just exhausted and needed a break [from it]
[Dean Bakota arrives and declares himself Foxall’s “rock husband” before wandering amiably to the bar with drink tickets]
100% ROCK: And then along comes Sick Fizz [where Foxall goes by yet another moniker – Foxy Von Fizz] – because you thought, geez, I don’t have enough time to do this magazine anymore, I need a break, so let’s start another band!
FOXALL: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that was, like, I said before I wanted to do something heavy and more traditionally rock with Neptune, so Sick Fizz was me saying I really miss playing punk music – and I guess also the sort of punk music I’ve grown into after that initial Nancy Vandal period – it was a bit more sort of rock’n’roll punk. So, like, a bit boogie and a bit…
100% ROCK: Bubblegum?
FOXALL: Yeah!
100% ROCK: A hyper-fuzzy bubblegum stomp, is what I think of when I think of Sick Fizz…
FOXALL: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Basically, the stuff that I’d listened to post Nancy Vandal. And I was always into The Sweet and stuff like that too, but I never really tried to write that sort of stuff. And this sort of happened with Neptune as well – I sort of went through these phases of discovering all these unknown ‘70s bubblegum, glam bands that never did anything, that are just getting uncovered, you know, in this modern digital age – like these compilations of bands no-one’s ever heard of, who only ever had one single and that’s been the coolest inspiration.
100% ROCK: Great stuff. And, of course, you’re directing videos like The Hard-Ons’ Needles And Pins, and other art for other bands. You’ve got the rock n’ roll covered – happily married to Nicole here, so all that’s missing from the equation is… [tongue firmly in cheek] where do you find the time for the drugs and alcohol?
FOXALL: [laughs] Yeah, nah – I don’t do many drugs. So that’s maybe that’s the secret! I do like a beer, but yeah, making things is my jam. I just love making things, whether it be music, songs, videos, drawing. So yeah, that’s the that’s the buzz I get!
100% ROCK: So, do you have any other niche-genre, future-cult rock bands on your wish list to make happen?
FOXALL: Ooh, that’s a good question, mate. That’s a really good question… hmmm… I don’t think so. Not at the moment.
100% ROCK: No hidden desires to start a cult disco band or anything?
FOXALL: Well, I would never say never! That would be interesting… I love when bands do that. I think you’ve gotta be REALLY passionate about. Like, the Sick Fizz stuff, I’m really connected to that. I’m not sure if I’ve got another genre [in me] I haven’t had a crack at.
100% ROCK: I’ll wrap up in a sec, mate, ‘cos obviously you’ve got more important things to do. Look, we’ve talked about Fox Trotsky. We’ve talked about Inverted CruciFox, and The Art Of Fox, and Speek Evil, and Foxy von Fizz…
FOXALL: Yeah. Geez, where are we going with this?
100% ROCK: But who the hell is Mike Foxall?
FOXALL: [Long pause] Ohh wow, what a great question. I’m pretty normal, I think, other than all that stuff…
100% ROCK: [Laughs] “other than all that stuff” – that’s a LOT of stuff!
FOXALL: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I said, making things is the big thing, the thing I love doing. So, all of that stuff is kind of all of the stuff I like to make. Me… I’m like, I’m a fan. I’m a fan of music. I’m a fan of movies and stuff. So, when I’m not making stuff, I guess I’m consuming a lot of that. I love discovering music – take away what I’m doing in music, and I just love listening to new bands and discovering old bands or whatever, and films and art and stuff. Yeah, I’m a fan. I guess that’s who I am.
100% ROCK: And doing all this has got to be fun as well, right?
FOXALL: Yeah, it is fun.
100% ROCK: Hard work sometimes, but fun.
FOXALL: It is a little bit. Like, I’m actually just as happy watching bands as playing, to be honest. If I like the music, sometimes when we’re playing with bands I’m like, ‘oh shit, I wish we didn’t have to play. I just wanna watch them and soak it up like a punter!’ So, that’s it, yeah.
100% ROCK: You’ve been very generous with your time and I do appreciate it very, very much. Thank you.
FOXALL: Man, there were some really good questions there. Really probing!
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